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likinthatokin
09-02-2010, 11:54 PM
I'm leaning toward using the quick fix method; the drinks and even diluting doesn't seem reliable, and I smoked one day recently and heavily a few weeks before that.

Does anyone know if labcorp will recognize quick fix 5.7 as synthetic? I'm fairly certain I have a good batch, even called to confirm, and I keep hearing that if you get the temp right you're all good. Pre-emp test and I doubt they'll watch, and I have a way to keep the stash hidden in the undies even if they do.

My only concern is the test result will come back non-human urine. I've seen hundreds of posts saying QF works and only 1-2 claiming the lab saw it as synthetic, also heard only Oregon is really testing for that.

How sure is Quick Fix?

killerweed420
09-03-2010, 05:59 PM
LabCorp or Qwest don't detect QuickFix because they follow protocols to be federally legal. Some of the smaller state labs don't follow protocol.

knottynuff
09-03-2010, 08:49 PM
The 1-2 cases that claimed they failed, most likely failed because they used normal Quick Fix (as opposed to Quick Fix with Uric Acid) in or around Oregon. I keep hearing about how Oregon is trying to crack down on the use of synthetic urine, in a nutshell they check for Immunoglobulin in the sample.

I just used QF and lemme tell ya, IT IS A LIFE SAVER. I would highly recommend using it for any simple pre-employment testing, although I can't say the same for govt. jobs or physical exams. Anyway, I would definately say you're good to go!

dziendobry4
09-03-2010, 09:16 PM
i used some shit from ureasample.com and passed a MedTox drug test (huge company). it's supposedly real, freeze-dried human urine

Burnt Toast
09-04-2010, 01:21 AM
I keep hearing about how Oregon is trying to crack down on the use of synthetic urine, in a nutshell they check for Immunoglobulin in the sample.
False! Labs practicing in the U.S. are prohibited from doing any form of genetic testing on urine samples collected for a drug test unless authorization is granted by the donor on an entirely seperate and detailed consent form. There are many posts throughout the forum that address the issue of Human Glycoprotein Immunoglobulin G (IgG).

dianakayc
09-04-2010, 08:26 PM
I have never used Quick Fix but it is probably the same as the product I use from urineflow.com. I buy a kit and it is more expensive than QF I think. I have been using substitution for 4 years and it has never failed me. Last time was 8/25/10. I am on a random drug testing program and am tested 1-3 times per month to keep my job. I go to Lab Corp. I am not observed. I have time during the day to use the heating pad because I find out by 5am and have until 3:30. So if anyone is in this situation that they have some time, I would recommend the urineflow kits but they take about 90-120 minutes to heat to the correct temp. I understand that QF is microwaveable. Hope you find this helpful. I was scared as hell the first time but after about 100 times substituting I am pretty calm. It has never failed me.

likinthatokin
09-04-2010, 11:53 PM
burnt toast and diana, you've eased my mind considerably. I plan to test tomorrow.

strangely enough I took 2 strip tests after diluting and both came back negative, but soooo faint a line that it made me nervous (though I know that's not supposed to matter, but it shows me I may be hit-or-miss). I can't wait for this to be over and pray that they tell me my results on the spot instead of making me sweat it (does anyone know if Labcorp ever does this???)

Damn, so which is riskier, chance using my own possibly-clean void or smuggling in the good stuff?

likinthatokin
09-04-2010, 11:57 PM
knottynuff, how do I know if I have "normal Quick Fix" or quick fix with uric acid? I just bought mine recently and it's QF 5.7

The idea of synthetic urine lacking something they'd notice is what makes me scared to use it. Can anyone clear this up? Does QF 5.7 have uric acid, or whatever it'd need for results to come back clean n' human?

likinthatokin
09-05-2010, 12:50 AM
ok now I'm reading the canadian version has beads of uric acid to add, meant to fool labs around oregon. I'm nowhere near oregon but still freakin.

As i said my diluted void came up faintly negative twice, so I guess I could add some to the QF for smell and uric acid, but I'd be scared to add much in case I dirty the synthetic...

BurntToast and Killer420, you seem confident. Is my own diluted or QF 5.7 (not from canada) the way to go?

mascar22
09-05-2010, 01:58 AM
dude stop trippin hahaha, its gonna work trust me, right after your test your gonna be laughing

likinthatokin
09-05-2010, 02:03 AM
lol now I'm pissed (no pun) cuz I realize lab's not open sunday... EFF

mascar they told you you passed right at the test? that'd rock, ha, go home and smoke one!!

mascar22
09-05-2010, 03:34 AM
lol, yup, im not gonna lie tho, the stress i went threw this week dunno if im ready to toke again just yet.

dianakayc
09-05-2010, 06:56 PM
I used to worry all the time about which was worse: getting caught substituting or taking the chance. I have used substitution now so many times with synthetic urine that I feel more confident with that. It is so hard and nerve-wracking the first time but it has worked for me over the years and if you get the temp right and have the amount right (for me it is 50ml), once they seal it up you are good to go. In my situation if I ever leave a dilute specimen then they will next do an observed and then I am fucked. So to avoid a dilute and an observed I use synthetic. As I told you, it has never failed me but believe me I have been a nervous wreck at times. I got over that. I went to this website so many times before I made that choice and it was 2006 that I went for it and ever since I use synthetic. I never get results, no news is good news. I just know that if I don't hear anything within 48 hrs I am good. That is the way I live. You get used to it after a while. Trust me.

killerweed420
09-05-2010, 07:09 PM
Its LabCorp so you have nothing to worry about.

dianakayc
09-05-2010, 07:14 PM
Just an FYI labs are in effect to make money, they use the cheapest testing methods they can. If the first and cheapest test is neg, they go no further. I found that out. So if you are neg and not dilute, you pass on the first time. However they do not let you know and don't ever call to find out, it makes you look guilty. Just turn in your good temp sub sample and you will be fine.

likinthatokin
09-07-2010, 04:56 AM
ya'll are the BEST. I def won't ask about results, though I'll post when I eventually find out. Thanks for all input!

snaresnapper
09-08-2010, 06:52 PM
I have never used Quick Fix but it is probably the same as the product I use from urineflow.com. I buy a kit and it is more expensive than QF I think. I have been using substitution for 4 years and it has never failed me. Last time was 8/25/10. I am on a random drug testing program and am tested 1-3 times per month to keep my job. I go to Lab Corp. I am not observed. I have time during the day to use the heating pad because I find out by 5am and have until 3:30. So if anyone is in this situation that they have some time, I would recommend the urineflow kits but they take about 90-120 minutes to heat to the correct temp. I understand that QF is microwaveable. Hope you find this helpful. I was scared as hell the first time but after about 100 times substituting I am pretty calm. It has never failed me.

I'm really nervous. I travel in a florida rock band, and don't really smoke too much. I was at a show and needed to relax a bit, so i took a few puffs and drank 2 beers. it really helped. now i get this great job offer to play in studio but they do urine test!! to weird. but anyway i must, must and did i say must pass. i got the quick fix 5.7 does anyone know anybody who failed on this stuff? so nervous can't sleep or eat. does it really work??

snaresnapper
09-09-2010, 03:45 AM
I'm really nervous. I travel in a florida rock band, and don't really smoke too much. I was at a show and needed to relax a bit, so i took a few puffs and drank 2 beers. it really helped. now i get this great job offer to play in studio but they do urine test!! to weird. but anyway i must, must and did i say must pass. i got the quick fix 5.7 does anyone know anybody who failed on this stuff? so nervous can't sleep or eat. does it really work??

i heard of two people failing at quest labs in florida in june of this year(2010)
has anyone else?

lain23
09-09-2010, 05:56 PM
I've seen dziendobry4 answer my post months ago and also this one, so I am now going to use ureasample with confidence and stop stressin it. Will post results

lain23
09-10-2010, 08:36 PM
Used one of my ureasample.com "real human" powdered kits:


BENZODIAZEPINES Negative
THC(MARIJUANA) METAB Negative
BARBITURATES Negative
COCAINE METABOLITE Negative
OPIATES Negative
P.C.P. Negative
AMPHETAMINES Negative
PH URINE, TOX 6.4
CREATININE URINE,TOX 54.9 mg/dL
ALCOHOL,ETHYL URINE Negative

*whew*

likinthatokin
11-10-2010, 04:54 AM
EFF, so sorry to the folks checking this thread, my account got shut down for forever and even trying to change my password, I couldn't post. Anyway I subbed with quickfix and passed. Won't be posting or checking here anymore cuz I won't make this mistake again, but THANK YOU to mascar22 and everyone else who advised. Subbing seems to work fine; no one watched me and all was well. Thanks again all.

ZorinIndustries
02-23-2012, 12:20 AM
First, I only registered to post here to say thank you. Now that I am here, I think I will stay a while. :)

Second, I want to thank ALL of you, but especially KillerWeed420.

I started the hiring process for a new job recently, and after three phone interviews, one in person interview, a personality test, and a background check they offered my a job. I accepted it, put in my two-weeks at my other job, and was very excited for the new job as it was in my field and the position I had been wanting for almost 8 years.

Skip to my first day of work - I spent all day in HR filling out paperwork and even had to take a few tests on some company material I had to read. After that I went and picked up my new laptop(sweet Dell m4600 with SSD drive and 8gigs RAM for those geeks out there), and sat down in my new managers office to get my log credentials and locations to start installing all the software I needed. At the end of the day, HR stopped by again to let me know they forgot to give my my drug test paperwork. It was Monday, and I had to go to the LabCorp office the next morning before coming into the office.

I am a MMJ patient, and I take it for several ailments - officially it is for migraines, and knee and back issues I have had for years (No more nasty, organ killing pain pills for me!), but it also works wonders on my RLS (Restless Leg Syndrome), upset stomach, and insomnia (severe insomnia). Without MMJ I am a mess, and only started consuming (edibles, topical solutions, and smoke) it because medical science had either failed me (their shit didn't work or had worse side effects that the illness itself gave me), or was extremely addicting (fucking pills - withdrawals are a bitch - also note that they were taken less frequently than directed in an attempt to NOT get hooked).

So, my only option was of course to substitute. As many other people here I was VERY nervous and upset. Regardless, that is where I found myself. I went to a local shop after work that night and purchased a 2ox bottle of QF 5.7-1, which the shop guy said was the best they had.

Upon returning home I got even more nervous about having to use the synthetic urine. I read hundreds of posts about QF and LabCorp specifically, and after reading this thread in particular I was put much more at ease.

The next morning I heated the QF up in my microwave as per instructed, popped on a joke banana hammock I had received as a gag gift, rubber-banded the little heating pad to the warm bottle (bottle was heated to the 100 degree mark as I had a 20 minute drive and most likely a wait at the clinic), placed it under my sack, put on my boxers, and left. After getting to the clinic the QF was at 98 degrees, and after I checked in and got into the private bathroom it was at about 96ish (it was COLD in there). I made my deposit, handed it off, and the lady sealed it up and said I was good to go.

Now, I am just waiting, but I am not a wreck anymore thanks to all of the feedback in this forum. I will, of course, post an update later to let you know if I still have a job, but I feel really confident about it, especially after reading what KillerWeed420 said about having to follow a certain process to be federally accepted as a test facility.

For now, here are the test details:

Lab: LabCorp
Test: Pre-employment Panel 1-5
Method: Substitution
Product: QuickFix 5.7-1 2oz (I did not need the whole bottle)

Thanks again, good luck to all, and cheers!

ZI

Rhino1793
02-25-2012, 03:37 PM
im really interested in your results zorn. I'm kind of in the same situation in a week...

iwannapeeclean
02-29-2012, 01:04 AM
Please post your results. Zorin is is about time you hear something.. All other posts are very old. I need to hear something about Feb (This month) 2012 for Labcorp. Will they know it is fake? From what I have read, it will work and I feel good about that. For some reason I am more worried about pulling off the caper more than anything. I got a valid batch of 5.7-1 or 5.1-7. Whatever it is (the box is upstairs)... I asked a friend of mine if he had ever tried synthetic pee before... He said yeah but it taste horrible.. Hilarious...... Someone please post if you have used this at Labcorp in 2012 without issue..
Thank you to everyone for your help and or advice..

KEEP THE DREAM ALIVE....

Burnt Toast
02-29-2012, 01:39 AM
I need to hear something about Feb (This month) 2012 for Labcorp. Will they know it is fake?


Under DHHS regulations, labs determine a "non-human" sample by checking the creatinine and specific gravity. Under DHHS criteria, a "non-human" sample is ruled when the creatinine concentration is less than 2 mg/dL and the specific gravity is less than or equal to 1.0010 or greater than or equal to 1.0200 on both the initial and confirmatory creatinine tests (i.e., the same colorimetric test may be used to test both aliquots) and on both the initial and confirmatory specific gravity tests (i.e., a refractometer is used to test both aliquots) on two separate aliquots.

As long as the synthetic batch is unexpired and had been stored properly (ie no exposure to direct sunlight), it will pass the validity checks permitted by DHHS.

You can always test your QF batch with a validity test strip to see if the creatinine, SG etc, are all within acceptable ranges. These tests are inexpensive and can be found online by doing a Google search for drug adulteration test kits.

Rhino1793
02-29-2012, 04:36 PM
ive heard nothing but good things about pre mixed synthetics so I wouldn't sweat it @iwannacleanpee. I have to test next week and by then it will have been three weeks clean for me but I still plan on using the synthetic just to do it out of privacy and principal. I'll update as it happens.

iwannapeeclean
02-29-2012, 06:14 PM
ive heard nothing but good things about pre mixed synthetics so I wouldn't sweat it @iwannacleanpee. I have to test next week and by then it will have been three weeks clean for me but I still plan on using the synthetic just to do it out of privacy and principal. I'll update as it happens.

Well today was the day. I am so nervous about this. Here is how it went down.

I went it and did my thing. When I came out it was about 99. The test lady said I could retake it if I wanted but I might have just been sick. I said I was sick but I did not think I was anymore. She did not make me retake it or anything. She used the provided sample and put it in the 2 tubes and had me sign everything. I am so nervous about it that I can barely think straight. I have never done anything like this before so who knows what to expect. I really need this job and everything else (back ground) came back fine. I don't know if I will ever smoke again because this was a stressful experience. I guess I will know soon if I have a job or if I will be horribly embarrassed and broke. Please pray for this old guy.
The QF people said don't worry about a thing. I verified everything was on the level with my batch..

I will repost if I get the job. If not I will let everyone know.....
I followed all directions to a T

enzyme
02-29-2012, 09:57 PM
Dude, relax - you're fine. You ALMOST screwed up by having your temperature out of the range (usually 90-100 is the range, and most real samples register between 94 and 96 on those little temp strips), but you made it. If she aceepted your sample and split it and bagged it up, YOU'RE HOME FREE!!!! QwikFix will register as a clean human urine sample. Congratulations on your new job.

iwannapeeclean
02-29-2012, 11:13 PM
Dude, relax - you're fine. You ALMOST screwed up by having your temperature out of the range (usually 90-100 is the range, and most real samples register between 94 and 96 on those little temp strips), but you made it. If she aceepted your sample and split it and bagged it up, YOU'RE HOME FREE!!!! QwikFix will register as a clean human urine sample. Congratulations on your new job.

Woooooo! Thanks man. I really hope your right. I will take your word since I know nothing on the subject. My wife is sick of hearing about it... lol .

I am waiting by the phone to hear about a start date.. Enzyme your the man.

It is nice when someone takes their own personal time to post something in regards to this issue. I am sure moderators get sick of telling people it will be ok, but it is still nice to hear from someone during the current year.

webdox
03-01-2012, 01:04 AM
It is nice when someone takes their own personal time to post something in regards to this issue. I am sure moderators get sick of telling people it will be ok, but it is still nice to hear from someone during the current year.

You do realize the moderators are not paid and volunteer their time here right? I would imagine most have jobs and families or both.

They have no obligation to placate you and tell you everything is going to be OK when in fact they can't help you or assure you that you passed. That would be wrong and irresponsible. The truth is... no one knows. It is always suggested that if you are to take the leap and rely on a fake urine that you buy your own validity/adulteration strips and check the pH, Creatinine, and SG yourself to assure your bottle is good and that you will pass the lab test. Just because a batch is still good does not make the bottle in your hand good. All you can do is have faith and hope and pray. Knowing ahead of time your sample will pass the scrutiny of quantification goes a long way, though, it easing the worrying...

Good luck.

iwannapeeclean
03-01-2012, 02:25 AM
That's why I say thank you. I have had several moderators talk me through it. It is nice

iwannapeeclean
03-02-2012, 02:59 AM
OMG!!! I got the job!!!!! Thank you to everyone here. Moderators and members. I could not have done it without you........QF 5.7 - Labcorp

Burnt Toast
03-02-2012, 03:08 AM
OMG!!! I got the job!!!!! Thank you to everyone here. Moderators and members. I could not have done it without you........QF 5.7 - LabcorpCongrads to you on a successful QF sub and welcome to the Sub Club.

Best of luck with the new job :smokin:

Ilovekush
03-06-2012, 04:25 AM
I have been "carring" synthetic urine for about a year and a half. Always keep an updated batch and store it accordingly. Recently, two of my friends came back invalid and "failed" (and yes temp was good, and new bottles from head shop). This prompted research on my part. I will no longer rely on synthetic urine...it is too risky for me. Will now work with a good, "clean" friend and start a storage and rotation process. To all that have never had probs...congrats! Employment is to valuable. Even with a MMJ card...my corporation does not honor :-( I will continue to exercise my choice to do what i want on my free time. Thanks to all that continue to support those with the same ideals! There is not a lot of "new" info, but research can help you decide.

webdox
03-06-2012, 05:00 AM
Unless your friends care to sign up here and share the results of their scanned MRO reports and what they "failed" for there is no sense in sharing their anecdotes and spreading unsubstantiated FUD.

Blazenamaze
03-16-2012, 02:28 PM
I know this may sound dumb but can someone tell me how to post my own thread? I have questions about my synthetic pee... and im still waiting on the test results for my new job.

webdox
03-16-2012, 03:59 PM
If you are reading this post of mine... hit the back button on your browser...

Now in the upper left hand side of your monitor there will be the (+ Post New Thread) oval button, click it.

vermilion smoker
12-10-2012, 12:32 AM
Thank-you burnt...

silentnights
01-22-2013, 08:06 AM
So quick question for anyone who knows if probation or parole labs can identify quick fix providing it met all the temp requirements and is not expired or counterfeit? I assume DHHS regulations apply in this scenario or can they do genetic tests on your urine because of probation/parole if they feel the need to without your consent?

Burnt Toast
01-22-2013, 12:41 PM
Probation/parole drug testing is an entirely different ball game. A person placed on probation has relinquished all the rights normally afforded to those taking an employment-related test, including the right to a fair drug test. Because of this, there are virtually no rules in the world of probation drug testing.

32yrslater
01-22-2013, 03:37 PM
So quick question for anyone who knows if probation or parole labs can identify quick fix providing it met all the temp requirements and is not expired or counterfeit? I assume DHHS regulations apply in this scenario or can they do genetic tests on your urine because of probation/parole if they feel the need to without your consent?

I can't speak authoritatively on this but I have more years of lab experience than I will admit to. ->This is just my opinion<-, The Genetic testing you are referring to is expensive and takes a highly qualified individual to perform the test so I highly doubt anyone does this unless you a government hire in a sensitive position. So, do they want to throw a parole back in jail? No. They more likely wish to deter you from going back to your old ways. Again, I have no facts to back this up other than my experience in the lab, cost for testing,etc. My guess is if they really do any testing at all it's the quick check (known as a "waived test" by CLIA) that anyone off the street can perform and that's expensive enough. Most employers use this. I'm job searching and I've only seen a few where they warn that hair folicle and urine by Mass spec will be performed to enable procuring a govt secret clearance. Does this make sense?

silentnights
01-23-2013, 01:41 AM
I can't speak authoritatively on this but I have more years of lab experience than I will admit to. ->This is just my opinion<-, The Genetic testing you are referring to is expensive and takes a highly qualified individual to perform the test so I highly doubt anyone does this unless you a government hire in a sensitive position. So, do they want to throw a parole back in jail? No. They more likely wish to deter you from going back to your old ways. Again, I have no facts to back this up other than my experience in the lab, cost for testing,etc. My guess is if they really do any testing at all it's the quick check (known as a "waived test" by CLIA) that anyone off the street can perform and that's expensive enough. Most employers use this. I'm job searching and I've only seen a few where they warn that hair folicle and urine by Mass spec will be performed to enable procuring a govt secret clearance. Does this make sense?

So would you or anyone know if there is an immediate way to know if a probation center has the ability to identify quick fix via 5 panel drug tests with adulteration kit or a simple cost efficient way to test for quick fix through lab methods? Any advice is appreciated. I'm starting to think quick fix might have been a bad idea. The only human sample I could use was from a 46 year old smoker and I don't know if they could distinguish his urine from an unrelated medical condition

silentnights
01-23-2013, 02:17 AM
Could they tell by age also via simple lab test? I know I'm supposed to submit a five panel test first. Could they tell through an adulteration kit that It's quick fix or give off abnormal readings providing the sample is legit and not tainted? I also know that the probation center doesn't use an etg for their alcohol screen and each test is 20 dollars for each visit. I'm on once a month but there Are different frequencies and positive readjustment is 20 dollars. Woulld anyone know if a center like this have the financial ability for sophisticated testing to identify quick fix plus?

silentnights
01-30-2013, 02:25 AM
Any feedback would be appreciated

MissSmokinHot
03-16-2013, 11:36 PM
anyone have any recent synthetic urine reviews? from 2013? Subbed last week...awaiting results impatiently